Oprah and the Interview with Harry and Meghan

You might be wishing this story would go away, but with Oprah’s impending interview with Prince Harry and Meghan Markle, it is likely to intensify over the next day or so.  In the U.S. the interview will be taking place this evening.  In the U.K. it will be happening at 1 a.m. tomorrow morning, but airing on Monday evening on ITV.  The interview will be two hours long, but I will try and keep this blog brief.

Meghan Markle

I first wrote about the royal pairing on their engagement in December 2017.  Her birth chart emphasizes the royal sign Leo and its ruler the Sun: she has the Sun in Leo, and Leo’s ruler the Sun in the 1st House trine her Midheaven.  So she has a very strong Queen Archetype, but she was in someone else’s territory, under their rule.  She also has half her planets (5) in the Cardinal signs, showing that she is a leader. Meghan was a liberated woman before she came into the royal fold: once you have your wings, you will not want them taken away; you can’t put a genie back in a bottle.  It may have been naive of her to attempt it.

Prince Harry

Where there is a Leo, there is often a Virgo close by.  With being neighbouring signs often they can have planets close together.  Leos need to lead, and Virgos like to serve, so they make good companions.  Prince Harry has half his planets (5) in the Mutable signs, so he is more adaptable.

William and Harry, Kate and Meghan

William and Harry shared an iconic mother, and the tragedy of losing her (a shared trauma), and were very close until recent years.  But they do have strains in their relationship astrologically:  for example, their Moons are exactly square!  William’s Venus opposite Harry’s Uranus points to a possible estrangement.  And William’s Pluto square Harry’s Ascendant on Harry’s 10th House cusp has a dramatic effect.

Kate Middleton, a Capricorn, has much more natural affinity with the Queen than Meghan.  Kate and Meghan’s Mercuries are exactly opposite (mentally they are far apart),  and Kate’s Saturn conjoins Meghan’s Pluto exactly, which is a difficult dynamic.  But I would say that the brothers’ charts clash more than those of their wives, and it is possible that the media made more of the clash between Kate and Meghan than there actually was.  I do believe that the media stoked the problems, and that there was racism and bias involved in the treatment of Meghan.  I am neither a royalist nor a republican, but have an attitude of “live and let live” towards the royal family.  However, I do think that Meghan shows insensitivity towards the Queen in particular.

Meghan’s Discontent

The documentary made in 2019 of Meghan and Harry’s tour of Africa included an interview with Meghan in which she expressed the fact that their way of life at the time was not conducive to “thriving” for her.  Pluto was at the time approaching her Descendant (opposing her Ascendant), which is a major transit of transformation and often great difficulty for an individual.  It can bring problems within a marriage, but for this couple it resulted in a move across the pond.  This transit became exact for the first time on 11th March last year (they made the move to Canada shortly afterwards), and because Pluto is slow moving, it transited that point again in June 2020 and January this year.  It’s a long process, so there are two more passes to come: 8th September and 3rd November this year, 2021.  It is also a very psychological process, so very much internal for Meghan.  Though she is ready to talk to Oprah now, she is still in some ways in the middle of her journey.

At the time of the move to Canada (which preceded the move to California and their new celebrity lifestyle), Harry had Jupiter trine his natal Sun, indicating foreign travel and to some extent fulfilling his restless nature, but there was also difficulty in the shape of Saturn square his Pluto (a wrench) and karma (Saturn trine his North Node).

Material Fortunes

Their dream of financial independence took an upward turn with their Neflix deal last Autumn.  Though Meghan had largely helpful transits (for example Pluto trine her Chiron), the material benefit seems to show up even more strongly in Harry’s chart, with Uranus trine his Ascendant from his 5th House cusp (an opportunity for greater creativity) and Pluto exactly trine his natal Sun (a huge monetary deal, where Pluto can represent big money).

Meghan’s Triumph over the Daily Mail

Meghan won her long-running case over privacy against the Daily Mail in February.  This was important to them both, because Harry is haunted by the hounding of his mother by the press and the paparazzi.  Meghan’s transits were very favourable, including Jupiter exactly sextile her Midheaven (upholding of reputation) and Pluto sextile her natal Uranus (an important turning point of change).

Oprah Winfrey

The run up to Oprah’s interview has been a bumpy ride, especially with the trailers we have seen being quite provocative or contentious from the point of view of the royal family.  I wrote a blog about Oprah in 2018:

“The first thing that strikes me about the birth chart of this outstanding woman is that she has three exact conjunctions”.

Those conjunctions are:

Chiron exactly conjunct North Node in Capricorn in 1st House of Personality  (Karmic Mission as a Healer)

Sun exactly conjunct Venus in Aquarius in 2nd House of Finance (Inner and Outer Riches)

Neptune exactly conjunct the Part of Fortune in Libra in 10th House (A Mystical path)

Oprah is big business, and has a reputation for sensitive but tough and in-depth interviewing.  Obviously this interview will make a lot of people a lot of money, but if she is to maintain her own reputation she needs to handle this interview with the greatest of sensitivity.  Her loyalties lie with her friend Meghan, but how far will she also honour the elderly lady across the pond?  Meghan has complained that the royal family might have had a hand in perpetuating falsehoods about her, but will Oprah let Meghan get away with any unfair negativity towards the royal family?  Can Oprah be scrupulously fair?

Transmission of the Interview

The interview was filmed a few weeks ago, before the beginning of Prince Philip’s stay in hospital and subsequent heart operation (which shows up as Chiron square his natal Pluto, exact to the day); we don’t know if his condition was stress-related.

Here are the transits for its transmission, for the people involved:

For Meghan – Pluto sextile her natal Uranus , this changes everything!  There is no going back.

For Harry – Neptune sextile his natal Moon – uncertainty about family relations, and especially in relation to the women in his life.  But Jupiter trine his Venus, and Saturn sextile his natal Uranus show that there will be positive aspects to the experience for him.

For Baby Archie – Jupiter sextile his natal Venus, and Neptune sextile his natal Saturn – like his father, there will be positive aspects to the experience for him (he may even be blissfully unaware).

For the Queen – She is the greatest focus of concern, but Neptune sextiles her Ascendant in Taurus from the 11th House cusp, so she may be more serene than is currently perceived.  Perhaps she has some perspective on the matter we are unaware about.  She will also be focussing on her own speech for Commonwealth Day.

For Oprah – Oprah has a plethora of significant transits at this time – maybe she is the real winner.  She may even have consulted an astrologer for the date of transmission.  Here is a selection of her transits: Saturn on her Sun  in Aquarius in 2nd House of Money indicates a huge responsibility; Chiron sextiles her natal Sun (she may be trying to bring about healing, but will it be just for Meghan, or for the wider situation and family?); Saturn squares her natal Saturn in Scorpio in her 11th House of Friendships and Networks – she needs to be super wise and clear about her own boundaries and principles; Jupiter on her Mercury in Aquarius in 2nd House – extremely lucrative for the media outlets and networks. Pluto square her natal Neptune in Libra in 10th House (she will see this as a seminal moment for her, and it will be important to her how it comes across in terms of how her “brand” is seen).

Will you be watching?  Apparently the Queen will not be watching, but instead an Aide will be staying up all night and briefing her at breakfast time.  I have to admit I will be watching on Monday evening, for nuances of understanding, though I can perfectly understand those who will not!


The Nodal Axis squares Venus on Tuesday (9th).  This focuses on karmic relationships, particularly in relation to groups.  This may present itself especially in the search for harmony within groups of people, and that can include families.  Perhaps the revelations and repercussions from the Oprah interview will lead people to re-evaluate their own relationships.  You may be looking at balancing the needs of various people.

At the first minute of Thursday (11th) in the U.K.,  at 00.01 Hrs and at 20 degrees Pisces, the Sun will conjoin Neptune.  Neptune combined with the Sun so intensely can bring high spiritual experiences and inspiration, especially if you are channelling or working with your creativity, in art or music for instance.  But for some, for example if you have a difficult aspect to Neptune in your natal chart, it may bring confusion.  However the confusion could lead to clarity.

A New Moon at 23 degrees Pisces follows on Saturday (13th), which is the most sensitive New Moon of the year, and a time to set intentions, make affirmations, and creatively visualize along the lines of peace in your own environment, and the plight of war torn nations around the world.  Lessons we have recently learned can be put to good use.  If members of the royal family have been licking their wounds, it may be time to soothe them and move on.

The week in bullet points:

  • Tuesday – karmic relationships
  • Thursday – spiritual or confused
  • Saturday – new beginning